(UWF) Ó EL DERECHO DE PERNADA EN BUQUES ESPAÑOLES (UWF) OR RIGHT DE SEIGNEUR OVER SPANISH SHIPS

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 Miguel Fernandez Radio-Maritime SurveyorContribuidor principal

El Instituto de Arqueología de la Universidad West Florida, parece disponer ya del dinero y del apoyo Institucional suficiente para dedicarse durante los (2) próximos años a continuar el expolio sobre los buques de la expedición del conquistador Español D. Tristan de Luna y Arellano, (hijo del Gobernador de Yucatán) y representante de una de las más ilustres familias Castellanas de la Época que acompaño a D. Francisco Vázquez Coronado en su expedición a las (7) Ciudades de Cíbola.


De Luna, fue elegido por el Virrey de Nueva España D. Luis de Velasco, un excelente Gobernador y protector de los nativos, al cual ellos mismos le denominaron "Padre de los Indios" y sus planes para la ocupación de La Florida y el trato a los indios estaban de acuerdo con el punto de vista de los Padres Dominicos y anticipaban las Normas para utilizar métodos equitativos que darían tan buena prensa posteriormente a Calvert, Willians y Penn en los anales americanos.

La expedición con (6) navíos y (1500) hombres, fue un fracaso y se perdió en su mayor parte y ahora el Instituto de Arqueología de la famosa Universidad de Florida junto a las mas altas Instituciones del Estado (USA), han decidido seguir hurgando no solo en los (2) barcos Españoles ya localizados, sino que pretenden revolver el Histórico Archivo de Indias en Sevilla para localizar y expoliar el resto.

Desde España, alguien debería recordar a todas esas Instituciones (USA) que los restos Españoles no deben tocarse sin su consentimiento y en todo caso la labor científica a realizar, si procede, por peligro de destrucción del pecio y la formación de alumnos debería ser una vía de doble dirección que pueda favorecer tanto a ciudadanos (USA) como Españoles, el resto es simplemente es un abuso e Insolidaridad por la fuerza.

 
Seguiremos atentos al Asunto y Provervio Español: arrieros somos,......

The Institute of Archaeology of West Florida University, seems to have enough money and Institutional support (USA) to engage in the (2) years to continue the plundering of ships expedition of Spanish conquistador Don Tristan de Luna y Arellano, (son of the Governor of Yucatán) and representative of one of the most illustrious Castillian families from his time who accompanied D.Francisco Vazquez Coronado on his expedition to (7) Cities of Cibola.

De Luna, was chosen by the Viceroy of New Spain Don Luis de Velasco, an excellent Governor and Protector of the natives, whom they themselves called "Father of the Indians" and his plans for the occupation of La Florida and the treatment of Indians agreed with the view of the Dominican Fathers and anticipating the Rules for using unfair methods such good press would be subsequently with Calvert, Williams and Penn in American annals.


The expedition (6) vessels and (1500) men, fail and was lost most of them and now the Institute of Archaeology of the famous University of Florida with the highest State Institutions, have decided to go a head and putting their hands not only in the (2) Spanish ships already located, but in the Historical Archive of the Indies in Seville, to locate and plunder the rest.

From Spain, someone should remind all those Institutions (USA), that the Spanish belongings should not be touched without their own consent and in any case the scientific work to be done if required by threat of destruction of the wreck and training of students should be a way of two directions that can benefit both citizens (USA) and Spaniards, the rest is just a abuse and insolidaridad by forcé.


To be Continued,.....& Spanish Proverb: Arriers we are.....

 

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Miguel Fernandez

Radio-Maritime Surveyor

Contribuidor principal

(UWF) OR RIGHT DE SEIGNEUR OVER SPANISH SHIPS

http://news.uwf.edu/index.php/2015/01/uwf-archaeology-institute-receives-290k-grant-explore-spanish-fleet-pensacola-bay/http://www.pensapedia.com/wiki/Trist%C3%A1n_de_Luna_y_Arellano

Hace 7 días

 

Selwyn

Selwyn Williams

Chairman at Weymouth Lunar Society

There is a certain amount of hypocrisy because the Spanish plundered the riches of the Aztecs and the Incas in the first place.

 

Hace 6 días

 

Miguel Fernandez

Radio-Maritime Surveyor

Contribuidor principal

Dear Mr.Selwyn Williams:

I see that you insist on this old argument so unimaginative as it was already discussed with relation to the subject:

SHIPWRECKS It would be too much to ask if personal jewelry and others belongings to the dead Spanish people on shipwrecks now wear not lucid in way as trophies by unscrupulous treasure hunters, so I will not repeat my arguments only keep on it.

 

ATOCHA TREASURE: BEYOND THE GLOW ... SECRETS EMERGE, R.D. Matheson III.

 
"Emphasize the difference between precious metals and stones themselves and the upper value of the objects found in a "Submarine Wreck" that reveal Secrets"

"Every sunken ship is a "Time Capsule" with legitimate owners whose will must be respected, before proceeding to unravel its secrets to Mankind", and

 "Yes Mr. Selwyn, Cortés conquered the Aztecs of Mexico and Pizarro the Incas of Peru, (both sacked their deposits of metals and precious stones), and so did Cesar & Octavio in Hispania & in both cases there was a great inflation worldwide"

"Hypocrisy by Hypocrisy the Californian Fever & the friendly indian policy driven by the California Governor Peter H. Burnett ".

Hace 5 días

 

Rick

Rick Mackenzie

Maritime Marine Research

Ahoy Miguel Fernandez


Sorry, but I see a huge difference between the meticulous work being carried out by the

 
University of West Florida Archaeology Institute, and the "pot hunters" who excavated the Atrocha galleon shipwreck. For the academics, the real treasure is what the Emanuel Point Ship Wreck can tell us about mid16th century Spanish naval architecture and ship board living conditions in much the same way as Mary Rose and Wasa revealed their secrets. After 400 years the treasure found belongs to the world as cultural icons of a past age - regardless of origin or as property at the time of the vessels sinking.

 

Just an opinion

Hace 4 días

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Miguel Fernandez

Radio-Maritime Surveyor

Contribuidor principal

Spanish Proverb: Is not Gold all that glitters

Florida St. is a leading area on historic recovery of wrecks especially Spanish, first was hunting for treasure in the area and now it seems that Institutions have been deeply involved leaving the work in the hands of the university (as study media not debatables) and we hope a job more efficiently and it can serve for their own students and make their thesis at the university which is available to very few that can aford very high rates.


We can see few participation with other International Institutions with interest in the Wreck and less of their students involved and as sailmen I beleve that at list they have to get a permission from implicated people ans ask permission to touch the belongings and accomplish with Criteria of New Developments in the Law of the Sea:


"The UNESCO Convention on the Protection of Underwater Cultural Heritage"

 

We can see few participation with other International Institutions with interest in the Wreck and less of their students involved and as sailmen I beleve that at list they have to get a permission from implicated people ans ask permission to touch the belongings and accomplish with Criteria of New Developments in the Law of the Sea:


"The UNESCO Convention on the Protection of Underwater Cultural Heritage"


If two boats (to which even yet are not named with its original) of the same expedition have already been discovered and studied, recovering all they carried iof interest might have to consider whether the other four require the same treatment or have to be preserved for future as (Time Capsules) remain in their watery grave pending the availability of better advanced of preservation sistems because I do not think actual conservation of ships like "Vasa" is what we want for our vessels and Sailmen.



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